talk.politics.misc

Kurt Lochner wrote:
> David Hartung wrote:
>> Kurt Lochner wrote:
>
>>> David Hartung wrote:
>>>> Kurt Lochner wrote:
>>>>> David Hartung deleted and bleated at:
>>>>>> Kurt Lochner restored:
>>>>>>> "matthew's ugly lies" < @ > quoted:
>>>>>>>> /columnists/LindaChavez[..]
>>>>>>> Who is this Linda Chavez, anyways?
>>>>>> In other words,
>>>>> There's no "in other words" to what I've posted, David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda Chavez has no demonstrable expertise to be writing
>>>>> such and pretending to be an unbiased, objective writer
>>>>> about organized labor's efforts..
>>>>>
>>>>>> you have no rational response to the original post.
>>>>> You'd like to pretend that, I know, but since I've belonged
>>>>> to a couple of labor unions, I can speak to that subject..
>>>> I've been in the labor force for the past 35 or so years
>>> But, have you ever belonged to, or even studied the history
>>> of labor unions and how they came to be? What do you not
>>> attribute to the labor movement having accomplished?
>> As a matter of fact, yes.
>
> Okay, out with it then..
>
>> My issue with labor unions has nothing to do with the idea
>> that worker have the ability to bargain collectively for their
>> compensation,
>
> Nor benefits, 5-day workweek, over-time and the like..
>
>> and everything to do with the fact that they have far to much
>> political power. When it comes to labor vs management, there
>> is nothing close to a level playing field.
>
> On the other hand, most of those in organized labor would call
> attention to the auspices of 'management' having too much say
> in the affairs of their workers, in contrast..
>
>>>> I believe that I also have some knowledge to speak to the matter.
>>> Have you been involved with any negotiations with a labor union?
>>>
>>> --This ought to be an interesting contrast..
>> The closest I have come to being involved with a labor union
>> was when the steelworkers began an effort to unionize the plant
>
> Which plant, if it wouldn't be too difficult to be specific..

immaterial.

>> I was working in in 1975. I was a full time college student
>> at the time, and the job was getting in the way of my
>> schooling, so I left before the activity really got started.
>> To my knowledge, the union lost.
>
> And does this plant still exist in the present?

I believe so, but since I currently live at least a two hour drive frm Tupelo, I
am not certain.