alt.politics.gw-bush

Rich Travsky wrote in
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> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote:
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>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
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>> > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in
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>> > > Mitchell Holman wrote:
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>> > >> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in
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>> > >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
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>> > >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote
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>> > >> >> > Rich Travsky wrote:
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>> > >> >> >> > > Just tell us what legistlative battles you are
>> > >> >> >> > > talking about.
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>> > >> >> >> > I think the biggest one right now is to keep troops in
>> > >> >> >> > Iraq.
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>> > >> >> >> No, it should be to get them out.
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>> > >> >> > We disagree about that. If we remove the troops, Iraq won't
>> > >> >> > be in as good a position to move forward and build a
>> > >> >> > democracy, in fact it will roil in anarchy.
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>> > >> >> So you are saying that US troops will have to
>> > >> >> stay in Iraq permanently to protect the government
>> > >> >> from it's own citizens?
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>> > >> > "Its own citizens", you mean. In any case, no. I don't advocate
>> > >> > making Iraq the 51st state.
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>> > >> So how long do you insist on US troops doing the job
>> > >> that Iraqis have no interest in doing for themselves?
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>> > > You conclude they have no interest in doing something for
>> > > themselves if they are currently unable to totally do that for
>> > > themselves?
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>> > Gee, the Iraqis haven't been capable of policing
>> > themselves for the last 4 YEARS. Would another four
>> > years (and another 3000 American dead) make a difference?
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>> The US should be in the effort in Iraq for the long haul. I've
>> explained
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> WHen are you enlisting?
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>> that I think it should turn sideways, as I called it, in order to
>> reduce casualties.
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> The US should get out before more lives are wasted and billions spent.
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>> > Talk about doing the same thing repeatedly and
>> > expecting a different result........
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>> You'd say that about the Cold War. You'd probably be complaining back
>> in WWII: "Why are we still fighting, look at all those Americans who
>> died!"
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> We were actually attacked in WW2. But you knew that, right???



Considering that the US has now been in Iraq longer
than it was in WWII the rightwingers should think twice
about comparing the two.