talk.politics.misc

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:26:33 GMT, "lubow"
wrote:

>(1) Zyklon B was so toxic, that its sale was outlawed even in Nazi Germany.

No. The inventor was Dr. Bruno Tesch, who was murdered by a British
Kangaroo Court after the war.

Dr. Tesch was a great hero, and humanitarian. He saved untold
thousands a miserable existance due to disease and starvation by
finding a useful byproduct of an amino acid still used today in
agriculture.

After the war, the Allies stole the process and made lots of money at
the expence of the heirs of Dr. Tesch.

It was made by Degesch, a German company. The Zyklon-B sent to
concentration camps was used for fumigation. It is still made under
the brand name Cyanocil.

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>(2) Your "Dr. Charles Larson" provided testimony at Nuremberg proving that
>inmates were indeed gassed


"The Katyn Forest is an area in Poland were the Soviets had
massacred thousands of Polish cadre. When the Germans wrested control
from the Soviets they were informed of thousands being driven out to
the forest never to be seen again. The Germans located the mass graves
and did a forensic archeological investigation.
At the Nuremberg trials where the Soviets sat as prosecutors and
judges themselves they introduced the massacre as a German crime and
the Allied members allowed it even though they knew who really did it,
which tells us something ugly about the nature of the trials. Super
exemplifying the basic mode of Holocaust evidence, the Soviets
submitted a report hundreds of pages long totally founded on
"eyewitness" accounts. The reality eventually surfaced in the form of
an extant German report, complete with photographs of the excavation
as it was happening along with foreign forensic experts and
journalists invited and Allied POW officers brought in to witness the
scene, all photographed at the scene.
With the advent of Glasnost the Soviets eventually came to admit to
the crime.

The German report stands ironically and poetically as the only
real documented forensic investigation ever performed on any mass
grave stemming from the WW II era.

Nuremberg Tribunal

The incident of the Katyn Forest being introduced to the
Nuremberg Tribunal stands as monolithic evidence that the trials were
a farce. In addition to that one grand indictment the determinations
of the Tribunal also included finding the defendants guilty of mass
extermination at camps in Germany, since erased from the story, and
the 4,000,000 number for Auschwitz currently 1,000,000. Inquiring
minds have gone over the records of the trials and the case for a
kangaroo court is outstanding."

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>(3) Dr. Larson was present only in the camps within Germany, not the camps
>outside Germany. These were the "show pieces" that the Nazis showed off to
>the International Commission of the Red Cross (ICRC). These camps were
>small. After the ICRC inspectors left, the inmates were loaded into boxcars
>for their eventual execution in Poland. Larson did not examine the camps in
>Poland, like Auschwitz, where hundreds of witnesses, including camp guards
>testified that inmates were indeed gassed by the millions. Thousands of
>canisters of Zyklon B were found in the Polish camps even though the gas was
>illegal within Nazi Germany.


Auschwitz was occupied by the Communists on January 27,1945. They
made reports about what they claim to have found. These initial
reports had not yet been adapted to allied propaganda. The reports
were published on February 1 and 2, 1945 in the Soviet propaganda
organ Pravda. Here are some things it said:

"the Germans in Auschwitz began to remove the traces of their
crimes"

"They leveled the burial grounds."

"They removed and destroyed all traces of the electric conveyer
system, where hundreds of people at one time were electrocuted."

"The stationary gas chambers in the east side of the camp were
remodeled."

"This huge death mill was equipped with the latest style of fascist
technology..."

The Communists did not even claim to have seen any killing
machines or rooms. Supposedly it was all destroyed or remodelled. The
did not allow the other allies to enter the camp, and they did not
supply any pictures or blueprints or any physical evidence.
Nevertheless, the United Press correspondent, Henry Shapiro,
obediantly echoed the Soviets story.

The Soviets said that the Auschwitz complex was entirely a "murder
machine". There was not a single word to indicate that the camp was
part of the German armament industies, as we now know it clearly was.

Even if the Germans had "leveled" the alleged huge grave pits the
bodies would still be present. However anyone familiar with the matter
knows that in Auschwitz no large grave sites were ever found.

The Communists did not allow any inspection of the camps by foreign
observers for many months afterwards and their claims conflict with
what "holocaust experts" say today. Today the experts all talk of gas
chambers is Birkenau, a part of the camp far to the west. This is much
different from where the Communists initially claimed that they were.
The Communists said the gas chambers were "remodelled", while today
the experts say the gas chambers were completely destroyed. The
Communists said the gas chambers were made to look like "harmless
garages". But they did not supply a single photo of one.

The initial Communist reports also do not mention things that are
now claimed to have been there. There is no mention of a pile of
eyeglasses, or hair, or shoes. There is no mention of underground gas
chambers. There is no mention of "farmhouses" remodelled to be gas
chambers. There is no mention of the rivers clogged with human ashes.

Today the experts are forced to admit that there were no gas
chambers in Germany. We are now told that "gassing" and
"extermination" camps were located exclusively in what is
now Poland, in areas captured by the Soviet Red Army and made
off-limits to
western investigators.

Today tourists can go to Auschwitz and be shown a "gas chamber".
This is admitted by the experts not to be genuine.


Brian Harmon wrote in article
<080620000051136373%harmon@ >...

"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V
are in their demolished state as they were left."

Charles Don Hall wrote in article
<8F4CB71B7NukuNuku@news. >...

"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.

"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it
would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully admit
that
it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."


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