Group: alt.politics.republicans
From: tgm
Date: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: Palestine never existed

In article < $ @ >,
thinhthi@ says...

>> (snip)
>>

>> The Hezbollah militia are the native people of South Lebanon. Of course
>> they
>> took back their homes when they kicked the Israelis out of their homeland.
>
>Hezbbollah is primarily Palestinians.

That is just plain wrong. try doing some research before making such nonsensical
claims. Hamas and the PLO are Palestinian Sunnis. The Hezbollah are Lebanese
Shiites.


>> Israel's violation of 'international humanitarian law' is constant and
>> far in excess of the few violations by Hezbollah. The so called
>> terrorists are the residents of South Lebanon, not some outside force.
>> They ARE the Lebanese people.
>
>Some are natives. Hezbollah is formerly PLO who were booted from Jordan
>after a failed coup.

Again with the nonsense. The PLO was operating in Southern Lebanon and the
Bekkah Valley. They were even cooperating with Hezbollah to some extent. They
were not integrated.

>>>> The Israelis use it murder people in their homes, fire rockets into
>>>> populated areas and use it to hold 10,000 people hostage. Surely the
>>>> people of Lebanon have the same right. BTW, Hezbollah are the Lebanese,
>>>> living in the south of the Country.
>>>
>>>You honestly don't see the difference between targeting an enemy who hides
>>>among civilians and intentionally targeting civilians.
>>
>> Apparently Israel doesn't. Most of the Lebanese casualties in the Israeli
>> attack were civilians. Most of the Israeli deaths were soldiers.
>
>Hezbollah has a habit of hiding among civilians and hence civilians will
>suffer. Most of the Hezbollah rockets failed to do any damage within Israel
>but not because Hezbollah didn't try but because of ineffective weapons.

Hezbollah are the civilian militia of South Lebanon. Of course they were
intermingled with the civilian population, that's where they live and work.

You are right about the weapons. The larger rockets, that could hit the major
cities in Israel, were taken out in the first 24 hours of the Israeli attack.
The few they had left were kept in reserve and would have been used had Israel
attacked downtown Beirut.

Unfortunately for all involved, Hezbollah has reconstitute their missile supply
and would now be capable of hitting Israel's major cities. Perhaps MAD may work
in this situation and Israel will finally come to the peace table.

>>>Hezbollah and its affiliates have planned or been linked to a lengthy
>>>series
>>>of terrorist attacks against the United States, Israel, and other Western
>>>targets. These attacks include:
>>> a.. a series of kidnappings of Westerners in Lebanon, including several
>>>Americans, in the 1980s;
>>
>> Yes, that was a problem in the 80's and carried out by numerous groups in
>> Lebanon.
>>
>>> b.. the suicide truck bombings that killed more than 200 . Marines at
>>>their barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1983;
>>
>> Yes, The battleship USS New Jersey was firing on Hezbollah positions and
>> they retaliated by blowing up the barracks. You fight a battle you've got to
>> expect casualties.
>>
>>> c.. the 1985 hijacking of TWA flight 847, which featured the famous
>>>footage of the plane's pilot leaning out of the cockpit with a gun to his
>>>head;
>>
>> That hijacking was done by a group calling itself the "Oppressed of the
>> Earth". Western sources alleged that this was part of Hezbollah but provided
>> little evidence to support these charges.
>
>Plenty of evidence.

Do provide a cite that is more than Israeli propaganda or a repeating of the
same lies. You know, valid evidence to support your position.

>>> d.. two major 1990s attacks on Jewish targets in Argentina-the 1992
>>>bombing of the Israeli Embassy (killing twenty-nine) and the 1994 bombing
>>>of a Jewish community center (killing ninety-five).
>>
>> Another unsubstantiated charge in regard the 94 attack.

/2/hi/americas/

>Substantiated. Besides, why would anyone attack another's embassy?

I provided a cite supporting my position. All you've done is provide your
opinion which ain't worth shit.

>> The 82 attack was the result of Israeli's invasion of Lebanon in that year
>> and a direct response to Israeli assassination of Hezbollah leader Sheikh
>> Abbas Mussawi, along with his wife, his child and five bodyguards. War is
>> hell.
>
>Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 and 2006 not 1992.

I did hit the wrong key. It should have been 82. Changed it above, happy now?

>And assassination of terrorist leaders is the right thing to do. You
>know, the involved Israelis will get 110 virgins for all eternity.

Targeted assassinations are a war crime and murder is never the right thing to
do. Especially when it does no good and merely causes the other side to strike
back.

>>>I'm sorry but electing either a Democrat or Republican will have very
>>>little to do with dealing with the Middle East..
>>
>> Could make a significant difference, especially if the new administration
>> really did want to fight the war on terrorist and not just make it a
>> campaign slogan like Bush and Rove did.
>
>Well, considering almost all terrorists affecting the . are Muslims from
>the Middle East, I'd say going in to the hornets nest is right on the money.

Yeah, providing targets for them to attack when they can't get to us here in the
States seems only fair. Imagine how frustrated they'd be seeing us arrest all
their leaders and not having any way to get back at us. I'm sure all those Gold
Star Mothers are just so proud that Bush made their sons and daughters the
targets.


Tom