alt.politics.republicans

In article < $ @ >,
Deputy Dumbya Dawg <_Dog@ > wrote:
>
>"Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote in

...

>> out.
>>
>> One of the great things about science is how it doesn't
>> depend
>> on authorities or eye witness accounts. You can verify its
>> claims for yourself. (That was why high school physics had
>> lab exercises.) As Einstein put it, "all laboratories
>> are equivalent."
>>
>>
>> Cameron
>
>Cameron is correct in his little dissertation, however he
>tends to be beyond the fact that no matter how many joules of
>heat a fire posses and no matter how little mass a piece of
>steel has if you try to transfer the heat from one to the
>other the temperature of the colder will never rise higher
>than the temperature of the hotter one.
>
>That being said without some active heat transfer mechanism,
>the fire in the WTC which did not burn at 2000 degrees F
>could not have caused the steel to reach melting temperature
>and become molten. This is why your furnace, oven and
>stove/range at home do not melt into pools of molten iron in
>your house.
>
>peace
>dawg.
>
>


Nobody says that the steel melted, or had to, for the WTC towers
collapse.

Steel looses 50% of it's strength at about 1000F and we know that it
reached at least that temp due to teh moltem metal pouring out of one
corner of one building. Probably aluminum form one of the jets. There
is also microscpoic metallurgical evidence that the fires got that
hot.

ALl you have to do is look at any video of a tower just before the
collapse to see raging fires across teh width of multiple floors.


Rinse, repeat. Dawg will state teh same crap over and over.


The Truth Movement consists of three groups of people;

- The people that take quotes and videos from the public record and
mash them together, add an ominous sound track and a voice-over
alleging all sorts of things that are not supported by the images on
the screen. The video and quotes are out of context and all
information that is contrary to Truthy claims is edited out with no
hint that there is an edit. These people don't cite sources, and
they do their best to obscure the fact that there IS a huge public
record and many, many, many thousands of eye witnesses to the events
of 9/11. The public record and what these people saw is consistent
with the simple explanation for 9/11, that 4 commercial jets,
hijacked, caused all the destruction.

- The people that, out of ignorance of the public record and without
any first-hand experience with the events of 9/11, parrot the
fiction created by the first group. The people in this class never
have any relevant expertise or bring any information to the
discussion that they didn't get from a Truthy web site or something
that they made up.

- The people that have been shown information from the public record
that contradicts the Truth claims and then refuse to engage in
discussion of their claims and the evidence. They just change the
topic and start the discussion all over again or respond with
groundless ad hominem attacks on the source of the contrary claims.







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